The Vicious Obama Supporters Ruined The DailyKos

There was a diary today at http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/3/27/1044 52/108 entitled "WHA?!?! Obama, Not Clinton, Pressing For Florida Delegates Solution" which was a complete insult to our intelligence here.  It is about how wonderful Obama is because he is looking for a way to seat the Florida delegation.  We know know what that means, more Obama distortion of the truth.  He wants either a caucus to disenfranchise older Floridians or a 50/50 split to disenfranchise the entire state.

However, I wrote a few comments in that diary and just like it was on the DailyKos, it is happening here, you say one bad word about Obama and you get troll rated or zero rated.

I hope somebody on this site who has administration ability looks into this and bans users for rating abuse.  

I wrote in the aforementioned diary and rated many of the comments I thought were helpful and added something to the discussion with a 2.  However, I gave nobody I disagreed with any rating at all, let alone a troll rating.  On one comment I received three troll ratings from Moonwood, Dreamsofabluenation and Studentguy.  ON another comment I got a troll rating from WhyNot and 3 zero ratings from TUs here whose names I cannot see.  Maybe these TUs will start hiding anti-Obama comments here like they do on the DailyKos.  I would love to know who gave me the zero ratings if a TU here would email me the information.

They will ruin this site the same way they ruined the DailyKos if they are not stopped.  



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We need to stop rating's abuse, now. (1.42 / 14)


by cpa1a on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:13:57 PM EST

Re: We need to stop rating's abuse, now. (1.80 / 5)

Perhaps you get rated down for calling people MORONS over and over again.  

It's highly ironic that in a diary in which you abuse people, you call for a stop to abuse.


by Cycloptichorn on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:16:47 PM EST
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Re: We need to stop rating's abuse, now. (2.00 / 3)

Why is this hidden? Come on, people, grow up.


by grlpatriot on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:26:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Obamorons? (none / 0)

Do you support use of the term, "Obamorons"?


Rrrinnggg... Time to change the government.
by Carl Nyberg on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 03:31:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: We need to stop rating's abuse, now. (2.00 / 4)

Funny, using derogatory terms like Obamorons seems worthy of a hide because it does nothing to elevated any sort of discussion.
Name calling and imature is what I'd call it.
Divisive as well, that goes for anyone using Hillbot too.

Because I wont trade humanity for patriotism!
by Drewid on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:33:46 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Uprated due to hide-rate abuse (!) (none / 0)

Stop it. Now, please!


Grumpy, reluctant, sore-losing, unhappy, irritable Hillary supporter for Barack Obama 2008
by DemAC on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:40:52 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: We need to stop rating's abuse, now. (none / 0)

I strongly suggest e-mailing Jerome as he requested in his diary dealing with this, last night.


by mady on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 03:38:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: The Obamorons Ruined The DailyKos (2.00 / 1)

actually no as I posted the diary

the diary is about how BOTH Hillary and Obama are playing politics with Fl and MI so please stop acting like hillary was some pinnacle for moral virtue on the issue.

I pointed out that Obama campaign was willing to negotiate some compromise.

my point being

you don't have to agree with their initial proposal no one would, thats why its called negotiations the first proposal usually favors the one who suggested it.

my point was that HRC didn't even respond with a counter proposal they just said they don't feel like negotiating at this time.

hence my conclusion they are both playing politics.


Congratulations to Barack Obama, the presumptive Presumptive Democratic Nominee
by TruthMatters on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:17:19 PM EST

You are entitled to your opinion (2.00 / 3)

I disagree with you in that there are only two ways to handle this and that is to re-vote or seat based on the proportion.

However, I would never think of troll rating you, and I didn't, let alone give you a zero (if I could) for your thoughts, even though I think they more Obamaspeak.  What right does anyone have to shut down discussions like those people did on the DailyKos?

You see, this is what Obama means to me.  His supporters are only a reflection on him.


by cpa1a on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:22:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: You are entitled to your opinion (2.00 / 1)

BUT that is my whole point!

what other solutions are there? Florida said they won't re-vote so then what?

my whole point is that Hillary should be seating down to say so then what?

if she wants it to reflect the votes then sit down said say it,
if a 50/50 wont work then SIT DOWN and say it.

but don't say you wont sit down and negotiate then run to the media about how Obama is dragging his feet.

Thats playing politics and YOU her supporters ignore this fact and that this is what she is doing.

THIS was the point of my diary that you are trying to use in your smear of Obama supporters.


Congratulations to Barack Obama, the presumptive Presumptive Democratic Nominee
by TruthMatters on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:27:48 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: The Obamorons Ruined The DailyKos (2.00 / 2)

So, instead of suggesting your comments may have been inappropriate, you've decided it was because they were pro-Clinton, they were troll-rated.

And to top it off, you call me a moron.

Look, I have reasons that are very real and dear to me on why I am supporting Obama, and while we may disagree on who we support, I don't consider you a moron simply because you support Clinton. I don't agree with things she's said, done, stands for, and I will gladly argue on those points, but you are a human being and entitled to your opinion. What I think of it doesn't make it automatically more wrong or right based on how I feel.

Consider that before you post inflammatory things next time.


Hooray for John McCain!
by ragekage on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:17:42 PM EST

Re: The Obamorons Ruined The DailyKos (none / 0)

It's just like the Clinton Donors blackmailing Nancy Pelosi. It is amazing some of the insults they get away with while claiming it is the other side who does the insulting. Then they praise fox or every right-wing source for any new detail of scandals.


It's the Delegate count!
by ObamaRules on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:20:28 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Clinton (hearts) McCain, again. (none / 0)

I'm stunned.  After McCain's speech today, Obama attacked him, saying he wants to continue the slog in Iraq indefinitely.

Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton said without being specific that "there is much to praise in Senator McCain's speech."

Here we go again.


by McNasty on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:30:00 PM EST
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Re: The Obamorons Ruined The DailyKos (2.00 / 2)

About "blackmail": To point out that individuals are longtime, dedicated, highly contributing Democrats is not blackmail.  It is the kind of straightforward pressure known, expected, and practiced in every tight campaign.  It is sort of like the pressure applied to the AA congressman from southern Missouri who said that the Obama reps were pushing him to change his allegiance (which he did not do) or the pressure admittedly applied to AA congressman Lewis in Georgia (who ultimately relented.)  Or...we hear from the Obama supporters that Superdelegates must vote their way in places where Clinton won, but (strangely) these same people do not push that argument in Arizona (Napolitano), New Mexico (Richardson), and Massachusetts (Kennedy, Kerry, Patrick), e.g.  It is ok in a hard fought election to press one's advantage.  But, lets not get carried away with such inconsistent self-righteousness that we make each other gag.  Haven't you heard the new meme of his week--the one that says Superdelegates would like some of the more intense supporters to tone down the language?


by christinep on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:48:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Using the term Obamorons (2.00 / 1)

is not supposed to fit every Obama supporter.  It is a specific term for Obama supporters who blindly believe they are right and from that point on they want to cut off any discussion about other candidates, (first it was Edwards and then Hillary) with personal attacks of the worst order.  You could see them 12 times an hour on the DailyKos, or they used rating's abuse and hidden comments.  This was not an occasional happening, it happened to anyone who said anything negative about Obama.  The swarms went after him or her.

I never troll rated the diarist even though I thought his point was insultingly stupid to Hillary supporters.  I would never troll rate anyone for an opinion.  

Have you troll rated anyone who called Hillary supporters stupid, part of a cult, imbeciles or worse?  I doubt it.


by cpa1a on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:35:20 PM EST
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Re: Using the term Obamorons (2.00 / 3)

well the problems when you use terms like that is you don't get the luxury of defending it in your title nor did you define it in your diary.

and i call out Obama supporters, clinton supporters and GOPers wherever I see it.

I call people Obama supporters or Clinton supporters  EVERYONE should probably try that, instead of trying to create the new fad label.

Obama supporters
McCain supporters
Clinton supporters

if you do that then your diary isn't wasted talking about WHAT you called the supporters and people can focus on your points.


Congratulations to Barack Obama, the presumptive Presumptive Democratic Nominee
by TruthMatters on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:40:40 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Using the term Obamorons (2.00 / 2)

A fitting alternative to a degrading term like Obamoron or Hillbot would be "over zealous supporter".


Because I wont trade humanity for patriotism!
by Drewid on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:46:00 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Using the term Obamorons (none / 0)

Exactly.


by grlpatriot on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:51:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Using the term Obamorons (none / 0)

Yes I have


Because I wont trade humanity for patriotism!
by Drewid on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:46:28 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Using the term Obamorons (none / 0)

I sure have, and as the other posters here have suggested, I've only ever said "Clinton/Obama supporter" specifically because of that.


Hooray for John McCain!
by ragekage on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 02:25:27 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Using the term Obamorons (none / 0)

The term "Obamorons" is inappropriate.

No exceptions.


Rrrinnggg... Time to change the government.
by Carl Nyberg on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 03:34:16 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Don't worry about the troll ratings (1.33 / 12)

If I had a dollar for every troll rating from an Obamaloon, I would have enough for a very fine dinner for two (with a good bottle of wine) at an upscale restaurant.  But, the troll ratings don't amount to much around here.

Obamaloons think if they just troll rate every idea or opinion they don't like, these ideas and perspectives will just disappear.  In short, they have profound respect for, and belief in, the powers of their own censorship.  They think they can censor society into becoming a Kossak state!


by lombard on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:17:44 PM EST

Re: Don't worry about the troll ratings (2.00 / 2)

I see you're no better than the diarist. Luckily, I know most of the Clinton supporters here view your tactics and words with great disdain, as well. We may disagree on ideology, but we don't call each other "morons" or "loons"


Hooray for John McCain!
by ragekage on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:19:21 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Uprated due to hide-rate abuse n/t (1.50 / 2)


Grumpy, reluctant, sore-losing, unhappy, irritable Hillary supporter for Barack Obama 2008
by DemAC on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:35:17 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Uprated due to hide-rate abuse n/t (none / 0)

And a troll rating for that...!?

How cute.

Is this turning into an asylum???

Jerome! HELP!!!


Grumpy, reluctant, sore-losing, unhappy, irritable Hillary supporter for Barack Obama 2008
by DemAC on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:46:16 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Uprated due to hide-rate abuse n/t (2.00 / 1)

Is 'Obamaloon' name-calling or not namecalling per Jerome's post last night?


by zonk on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:48:23 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Uprated due to hide-rate abuse n/t (none / 0)

I'm all for a very wide latitude in language; I don't think we need to tread so lightly as if this was a kindergarten for very sensitive children. Feel free to differ and if you take umbrage to that term then feel free also to troll rate it (give a "1") if you must.

Hide ratings however, as I've understood it, is for really despicable stuff. And a silly moniker is really not all that horrible.

Feel free to think and write otherwise.


Grumpy, reluctant, sore-losing, unhappy, irritable Hillary supporter for Barack Obama 2008
by DemAC on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:57:27 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Uprated due to hide-rate abuse n/t (none / 0)

Hey -

I don't disagree.

However, the site's proprietor, just last night -- wrote a diary decrying 'name-calling' and expressly said there would start to be weeding out of it.

I'm simply following the rules as Jerome laid them out, whether I think they're a little silly or not -- the rules are the rules, I guess.


by zonk on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 02:19:05 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Uprated due to hide-rate abuse n/t (none / 0)

Well, Jerome's weeding out process is probably a good thing and will make MyDD a happier place. But why this weeding makes it necessary to hide-rate every little silly thing is beyond me. What's the point of having the "1"-rating if everything that's disagreeable to anyone deserves a "0"-rating anyway?


Grumpy, reluctant, sore-losing, unhappy, irritable Hillary supporter for Barack Obama 2008
by DemAC on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 03:22:52 PM EST
[ Parent ]

I uprated it too (2.00 / 1)

Outside of the word, lombard was right on point and I believe the swarms of vicious Obama supporters that we are all used too over at the other place is something we are very angry about and we don't want to see it here or anywhere else.  I wouldn't be surprised if Obama lost votes to McCain because of these people.  They are like fascists try to control the press.

I don't think calling someone a moron or a loon is all that bad compared to what they do at the other site.  

If the have the DailyKos to have their Celebrate Obama Parties why are they coming here?  To make more enemies and to try to overwhelm mydd.com?

I don't know about the rest of the people here, but after seeing a super saturation of the Obama Love-Ins on TV and in the newspapers, being continuously attacked by the vicious Obama supporters, who deny anything bad about Obama,  triggers either the fight or flight reaction.  I would much rather fight and if so many didn't leave the Dailykos for mydd, I'd still be there.


by cpa1a on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 03:29:25 PM EST
[ Parent ]

History... (none / 0)

If the have the DailyKos to have their Celebrate Obama Parties why are they coming here?  To make more enemies and to try to overwhelm mydd.com?

This was the only site that I used to frequent. I never went to Daily Kos. I left here because I felt like I was driven off by Clinton supporters who were so hostile to Obama supporters on this site. The number of Obama supporters who expressed that same impression upon leaving was incredible.

If you go back and look at diaries published a couple of months back, probably December of last year, you'll find that there were nearly daily diaries about how far this site had fallen. I think it was because the administrative policies were much more lax than when Chris Bowers frequented the site.

I am not trying to "overwhelm myDD." I don't think most of the Obama supporters here are. I think we want to be able to be part of a progressive community that we loved.


by Obama08 on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 04:13:42 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: The Obamorons Ruined The DailyKos (1.00 / 1)

Uhhh... I think it is truly hilarious that anyone at MyDD would be pointing the finger at other sites and called them ruined, considering the joke that this site has become


by sharris0512 on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:18:13 PM EST

Re: The Obamorons Ruined The DailyKos (none / 0)

Then why are you here.  This deserves and troll rating!


by cpa1a on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 03:30:20 PM EST
[ Parent ]

That was my first ever troll rating ever (none / 0)

I think.

It appears that you don't like it here and that you are here for destruction only.  That is a good reason to call someone a troll, don't you think?  


by cpa1a on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 03:34:46 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Obamorons and Obamaloons (2.00 / 1)

Wow, you guys represent your candidate and this site pretty well.


Because I wont trade humanity for patriotism!
by Drewid on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:22:07 PM EST

"Obamorons" (2.00 / 4)

I think I figured out your problem. You call all Obama supporters Obamorons every sentence you write. I think the reason you were downrated is the insults you throw around.


by Obama08 on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:23:30 PM EST

The term Obamorns evolved (2.00 / 1)

There was a time at the DailyKos when discussions got hot and that is OK.  But after awhile, Obama supporters buried any anti-Obama comment or anti-Obama diary with totally abusive comments.  

Just as bad were their insipid diaries about how wonderful Obama was that totally cluttered up the system so much that that is all you saw.  

To go from "how could you all be so gulliable" to, after the frustration of the Obama swarms of the most disgusting people I have ever seen online, to Obamorons isn't hard.  Yes, there were some people who debated respectfully but they were few and far between all the crap.  

Recently, some jerk over there troll rated me because I said Obama lied and deceived his supporters over the Reagan record and the Republican ideas.  He said what I said wasn't true and he had the Audacity to equate me with a Republican troll?  It stretches credulity and it made us Obama dislikers into angrier Obama dislikers but it also turned us into Obama supporter haters.  Yes, haters because even the best of them were distorting the truth.

I never pretended to not know Hillary's faults but you know, to those left on the DailyKos, Obama has no faults, he is a god.


by cpa1a on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 02:10:29 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: The term Obamorns evolved (none / 0)

I spend some time on DKos as well, and most of us Obama supporters realize that he has faults. Just examine exactly what you are saying before you say it, some of it is very offensive. All I am suggesting is you might want to think about whether you were a victim of troll rating abuse or whether your comments were worthy of it.


by Obama08 on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 03:55:54 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: The Obamorons Ruined The DailyKos (2.00 / 3)

somehow I think using the term Obamorons invalidates everything else you have to say. This is precisely the kind of speech that Jerome is trying to target with his new censorship policy. you could have easily titled this thread Obama Supporters Ruined Daily Kos and it would have been much more effective.


by wasder on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:23:30 PM EST

Moonwood (2.00 / 2)

Abuses the ratings a lot.


by Si Ella Puede on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:30:41 PM EST

Re: The Obamorons Ruined The DailyKos (2.00 / 3)

they are not morons, they are just overly enthusiastic for their candidate, and disrespectful of any choices other than Obama.  It is this latter point that turned me off to Obama supporters.  I was just as disrespected when I supported Edwards as when I switched to Clinton.  The Obamatrons were salivating over Edwards voters.  I switched to Clinton instead.

That said,  I am sure "they" is a small percentage of Obama supporters.  

I don't like that small percentage any more than you do.


by WolfmanJack on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:31:39 PM EST

The Pejorative (2.00 / 3)

Certainly jumps out and dilutes your point.

That's a bummer, cause your point is valid.

Too bad everyone currently feigning outrage over the pejorative above isn't giving equal time to the good fight for etiquette in this campaign.

So they have no credibility either.

We're all losers now.


by Edgar08 on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:31:46 PM EST

Too funny. (2.00 / 3)

Looking at your comment that you're whining about receiving a TR for -- you:

- referred to 'Obamamorons' three times

- referred to a diarist on another site as an "asshole" because he diaried that EITHER Clinton or Obama supporters that would pout and support McCain were cultish (a sentiment I agree with).

- called Obama an 'SOB'

- referred to Obama supporters as 'arrogant pigs'

I guess you missed Jerome's post from last night:
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/3/26/2311 9/5368


Time for the weeding out to begin. And it won't be between Obama and Clinton supporters either, both of whom are welcome here. It will be between those who are serious and post like adults, and those who are not, and do not have enough self-control to resist name-calling and attacking other users.

Look out - I think I see a weed whacker headed your way.


by zonk on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:35:28 PM EST

When we observed at Daily Kos (2.00 / 3)

to administration the way that Obama's supporters abused the rating system, we continually were told that the abuse went in every direction.  But here we have a case in point, Obama's supporters are moving in here, and they are bringing their terrible swift  sword with them.  Even a hint of dislike for Darth Barack brings swift revenge.


Another Hillary Supporter for Obama!
by Beltway Dem on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:38:05 PM EST

Re: When we observed at Daily Kos (2.00 / 2)

Please.

Did you even bother to read?

The poster ranted and name-called half a dozen times in the supposedly innocent post.

S/he didn't get TR'ed for "supporting Clinton" -- S/he got TR'ed for referring to Obama supporters as "Obamamorons" 3 times, referring to a poster as an 'asshole' once, calling Obama supporters 'arrogant pigs', and wrapping it all up by calling Obama a "son of a bitch".

If you somehow don't think that's troll-worthy, well... then I guess there are no rules.


by zonk on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:46:09 PM EST
[ Parent ]

What are the rules for supporting human rights (none / 0)

over at Daily Kos?

I got banned for supporting Burmese monks, which I thought was in bounds for a progressive cause.

While you argue about ratings, users get disappeared at Daily Kos for talking about human dignity.

Seriously, you have no leg to stand on defending that site that defends Chevron's right to fund the paramilitary of the Burmese right wing government.


"I hope the two wings of the Democratic Party may flap together." - William Jennings Bryan
by pinche tejano on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:53:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: What are the rules for supporting human rights (2.00 / 2)

Well, we're not on DailyKos... beyond that, I can't really comment on something I haven't read.

If you have a cached page of what you wrote or a copy that you can otherwise share, I'll be happy to offer my opinion.

Given that we're discussing this all in a diary where the diarist pretty clearly wrote something worse than his/her diary claims -- I'm sorry, but I'm not inclined to just take your word on the benign nature whatever you wrote that got you banned.

It's nothing personal - I just don't know you, and it's impossible to verify the veracity of what you've said with just your summary to go on.


by zonk on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 02:23:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Doesn't really matter, but here you go: (none / 0)

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/10/9/ 155633/985

It was the #1 diary when I got banned, which was funny because I had a lot of TU saved up. I didn't get community banned, it was an admin move because I protested Chevron on Kos on Chevron Protest Day.

I am big fan of the French Situationist, so I thought this would be a clever display.

Got me banned.

For supporting monks.

On a progressive blog.

On a funny side note, since I had TU, I could still change tags! Sure I couldn't comment anymore, or post diaries, but change tags I did.

You might wanna mention that to any admins you see over there.

But seriously, ratings abuse pales in comparison to admins banning users who support human rights.

And that's all I got to say about that.


"I hope the two wings of the Democratic Party may flap together." - William Jennings Bryan
by pinche tejano on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 02:44:17 PM EST
[ Parent ]

And oh, (none / 0)

don't think I don't see the delicious irony of the last thing I ever said at daily kos was this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG6b3V2MN xQ

That was at the end of my diary.

So long and thanks for all the fish indeed.

That's the sweetest meta of all.


"I hope the two wings of the Democratic Party may flap together." - William Jennings Bryan
by pinche tejano on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 02:50:47 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: The Obamorons Ruined The DailyKos (2.00 / 1)

Funny that this diary hasn't been deleted by Jerome yet.


by XoFalconXo on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:40:54 PM EST

Re: The Obamorons Ruined The DailyKos (2.00 / 1)

and actually if you read the COMMENTS on dailykos dairies then yes you would see that alot of the posters do call out fellow posters when they insult others, they DO note that it doesn't further discussion to do it.


Congratulations to Barack Obama, the presumptive Presumptive Democratic Nominee
by TruthMatters on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:41:55 PM EST

Name calling (2.00 / 1)

Yes, but did it stop the behavior? No. I think we have a better mannered group here at Mydd and we are more willing to stop the personal attacks. I like your suggestion down thread to refer to the candidates' supporters in these terms:

Hillary Supporters
Obama Supporters
McCain Supporters

We really should be more respectful of each other.


by grlpatriot on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:50:59 PM EST
[ Parent ]

DailyKos got crazy.... (none / 0)

I was called every name in the book and not just silly names like "idiot" or "stupid," that site is totally out of control. I think those running DKos lost sight of their business and became too emotionally involved in promoting Obama. Grant it, it's their choice to do so...I'll I can say is good luck with that because when this is all said and done, the "drive-bys" will leave and the site will be missing many of those who really are interested in politics.


by soyousay on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:42:45 PM EST

Diary title (2.00 / 1)

Be the bigger person and change the diary title. I agree that ratings abuses are occurring, so let's refrain from name calling and see if that helps. "Moron" is insulting.


by grlpatriot on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:43:38 PM EST

Good idea and I did. (none / 0)

However, there is a reason why so many left there to come here.  Now they are coming here to cause trouble like they did there.  So the anger is rekindled and so is the feeling that this blog has to be protected or it could end up to be the same useless gathering of people that place became.    


by cpa1a on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 02:28:49 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Good idea and I did. (none / 0)

I agree. I've noticed. The good thing is Jerome noticed too. Unlike Kos, Jerome is being an adult and doing something about it.


by grlpatriot on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 06:14:28 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: The Obamorons Ruined The DailyKos (2.00 / 1)

When Naranjastan came for the Gravel supporters,
I remained silent;
I was not a Gravelian.

When they locked up  the Kucinich supporters,
I remained silent;
I was not a Kucinichite;

When they came for the Edwards supporters,
I remained silent;
I was not an Edwardian.

When they came for the Clinton supporters,
I remained silent;
I was not an Clintonite.

When they came for me for supporting Burmese monks,
there was no one left to speak out.


"I hope the two wings of the Democratic Party may flap together." - William Jennings Bryan
by pinche tejano on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:48:37 PM EST

Re: The Obamorons Ruined The DailyKos (none / 0)

Thanks for pointing out that we're morons. Suddenly, everything makes sense to me. I'm now seeing the world through a set of moronic eyes.

It's a brand new moronic day!


by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:56:56 PM EST

Rec it UP! (none / 0)

I see the light also!

Moron's everywhere....'RECommend' this dairy so the whole world can share it's wisdom!

REC it UP!


by JoeCoaster on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 02:14:44 PM EST
[ Parent ]

PS... (none / 0)

I'm serious...let's make Jerome deal with this.


by JoeCoaster on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 02:17:13 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: PS... (none / 0)

That is a clever and amusing way to deal with it, but probably the more diplomatic thing to do is to e-mail the admins.


by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 04:14:36 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Ratings abuse? (2.00 / 1)

I just looked back at that diary and your comments. With your abusive language you should be banned from both sites. Want to not get hide rated. Tone it down bro.


John McCain supports privatizing Social Security.
by Travis Stark on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 02:04:11 PM EST

Once again, it's "Daily Kos". (none / 0)

Not "The Daily Kos," nor "The DailyKos."  It's odd that you make the same error as a couple diarists yesterday.

Either you're very new to the blogosphere, or you're not who you claim to be.


by McNasty on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 02:05:45 PM EST

Re: The Obamorons Ruined The DailyKos (none / 0)

Do you find it disturbing that John McCains site is featuring Bill Clinton praising him on their front page?

Praising our fall opponent seems unwise to me.
WE do want to win in november and end this war, right?


by hawkjt on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 02:12:32 PM EST

A few choice quotes of the diarists (2.00 / 2)

From the diary he references (his quotes. Not mine.)

"Obamorons"

"racist anti-Semite Jeremiah Wright,"

"[Obama] is one sneaky SOB"

" If I was a Floridian and he was preventing my vote from counting, I'd say "fuck him" and I'd vote for the the other guy to let everyone know never to do this again."

"[Obama] is a sneaky conniving and lying SOB."

"How fucking blind can you be"

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And you want to lecture the rest of us on civil discourse?


John McCain supports privatizing Social Security.
by Travis Stark on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 02:13:00 PM EST

Delete this diary please (none / 0)

The title is insulting. The resulting rancor in the thread is predictable. Please delete or at the very least change the title of your diary.
In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Thomas Jefferson
by Bella on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 02:16:08 PM EST

REC it UP! (none / 0)

Let's make Jerome deal with this..


by JoeCoaster on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 02:18:29 PM EST
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Re: The Obamorons Ruined The DailyKos (2.00 / 0)

the fact still remains that either candidate represents a huge improvement over the crooks and liars currently in charge.
Lets not take steps backwards in achieving OUR goal. We will ALL need to pull together in the long run, save your energy for the big battle. Eight years...no more!
by forthepeople on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 02:33:06 PM EST

I did troll rate that comment (2.00 / 1)

And I'll stand by it.  You called a democratic candidate an SOB, which is a personal attack.  and I did hide rate your comment about the 'obamorons/'obomorons' If you want to get in an argument about whose supporters are smarter then bring up valid demographic information otherwise stop the personal attacks.

Also look at my sig and my recent comments and ratings I have been doing this to people of both sides (with the exception of people whom I saw were reported to the "mass banishment" thread such as the idiot who suggested "that Hillary get a broom" which was horribly offensive.

Also look at my last diary, if you want to help out Sen Clinton you could get an Obama supporter to donate cash to her.

Thus I say this to you:

Start acting like a thoughtful adult.


Student Guy=JoeMentum. No really Student Guy=JoeMentum, after all JoeMentum was an embarrassment so is Student Guy. This sig is FAIL!!
by Student Guy on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 02:51:06 PM EST

I really don't think calling (none / 0)

him a lying SOB is so bad.  If the vicious Obama supporters said that about Hillary, that would be fine.  On the other site, mscasey called her a c__t in one of iceberglim's "I will not vote for Hillary" diaries.  That was out of line.  However, I've seen Hillary and Edward's supporters called much worse than a moron, (which was a collective name...I never called any individual an Obamoron)

I watched Obama's video of the interview with the Reno Gazette editorial board  at http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/articl e?AID=/20080115/VIDEO/80115026 and from that moment on, I didn't trust Obama, didn't like Obama and I thought he was delusional.  It bothered me that he trashed the baby boomers, said they were waiting for a Love-In to solve their problems and said wonderful things about Reagan (for which I was troll rated on the Dailykos because that person didn't believe his lying ears, if he actually watched the video) and the people on the other site weren't repulsed by Obama also.

Every Democrat should watch that interview because it really shows who and what Obama is.


by cpa1a on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 04:25:33 PM EST
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So you are okay with latent sexism (none / 0)

After all what does the B in SOB stand for, but not actual sexism?

I am a supporter of Obama, thus when you call a group something you call each individual member that name.

The link you provided doesn't have sound,  if I remember he commented on how Regean got white working class people to vote against there interest and how democrats need to study how he did it so it can be prevented in the future.
Also how Regean had ideas, they were bad ideas, but they were ideas.


Student Guy=JoeMentum. No really Student Guy=JoeMentum, after all JoeMentum was an embarrassment so is Student Guy. This sig is FAIL!!
by Student Guy on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 04:55:36 PM EST
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